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philophy. atvey juncture labor considerations versus growth considerations you have to air on the side of growth and give it a chance. that is the job of this committee. >> you were around in the reagan administration during two rounds of tax reform. eighty-one 86 capital gains went up to 28 if i not mistaken. are there lessons we should derive from that back positive, negative? that was a different era with the global economy was far less integrated that it yesterday. our rates our rates are the highest in the industrialized world on corporations. we are sort of unlike other countries in the industrialized world and
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that we tax most of our companies through pastors. the top effective rate is 44.6%. we 44.6 percent. we're taxing businesses at much higher rates than foreign competitors. in this global economy how much of a difference is that making with respect to global competitiveness and capital flows and what other lessons we ought to derive from your past experiences and broadening bases and lowering rates? what mistakes do you think we should avoid? >> well i think the tax reform experience in the 1980s during the reagan years was a positive one. resolve rates resolve rates come down. we saw a significant increase in tax revenue as individuals shifted from tax shelters shifted into importing more income.
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and so the revenue cost was less than pure static analysis would suggest. yet it also provided strong incentives for saving and for job growth. the corporate tax has become a bigger and bigger problem. we used to have a much higher corporate tax rate. brought it down. the rest of the world brought it down more rapidly. we see ourselves with a higher corporate tax rate than any other country in the world which puts our companies at a disadvantage, raising the cost of capitol makes it more attractive to investors broad than in the united states and it raises the cost and therefore the prices of american products which makes it harder for us to compete with imports and
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harder to compete as we export to the rest of the world. i think that is why there is broad agreement of bringing down the corporate tax rate and moving to an integrated system so-called territorial system would make a lot of sense. >> i want to be respectful of time. i will yield to mr. within. >> thank you. first, i would like there to be distributed to charts. if you would do that right now. also two or three witnesses it is a little clumsy because of the way they are being distributed. who is doing that?
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just the old-fashioned way. over here, too, will you? let me start. let me discuss it just quickly because i i do not want to draw on it except i do think it is a mistake to minimize the progress that we have made in the last years. we need to look to the future trying to degrade or miss describe what has happened in these last years is a serious mistake. these two charts show, to pick pick up what you have said doctor johnson the
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1st chart shows the net employment gain in the us compared to the uk germany canada, japan korea, and all others and you will see that more than half of the employment gain from 2010 to 2014 was in the united states. the 2nd chart to pick up your.relates to gdp and selected economies. now our three witnesses also have and it is striking what has happened in other countries compared to the united states. and so if we're going to move ahead i think it is important not to miss describe the past and it is also important for us to look at the policies that we
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are undertaking. i hope, if i might say so, that the republicans would take another look at their opposition to stimulus policies that have really worked. let me also say about the corporate rate that dr. feldstein and the other witnesses, i think we need to look at it. we need to also look at the effective tax rate because it varies dramatically according to sectors. in some sectors they are paying the full mid 30s but in other sectors the effective tax rate is much lower and in some cases the effective tax rate is zero. so i think we need to take a good look. going back to the 1st chart that i put on
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actually, it was the 2nd chart i would like doctor johnson if we could put that back, the 2nd chart that i referred to which talks about essentially the stagnant income for the broader 90% in contrast to the top 10% and the top 1%, can you refer to this a a bit? describe, if you would, a bit more on this goes back to the 80s. and he mentioned a few of the factors. as as we try to turn our attention, as we must to income stagnation for the middle class just review what you think of the major factors that have cost us going back now 35 years and maybe you can put on the screen if we can do that,
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that 2nd chart. >> yes, congressman. it is an important chart. it does not matter which way you break it down. it down. it is a very similar story. people who used to be in the middle and those who were middle class people who had a high school education or one or two years after high school have done relatively badly in terms of income growth. the research on this which has been done by many people emphasizes the importance of technological change, some computers and information technology has automated away a lot of what were administrative and clerical jobs before. secondly globalization, the patent of trade that has developed. probably not as important as the technological change, but something that has reinforced that.
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>> as we talk about the importance of exports, and i want want to do that relating to globalization talk about the impact of imports and there is often a tendency to look at just one side of the equation but clearly you have to look at both. i think that is your. >> that is the essential point. recent. recent research on the effect of china's surge in exports. our imports and that to thousands have mapped out and compelling detail the distraction of jobs and american manufacturing that came directly and specifically from that trade shop which was facilitated by an episode of currency manipulation in which the chinese was kept below its market value. so imports are very important. and then those people go down and if they can't get a job that you down in terms
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of the income they can learn, and that is big part of what lies behind the picture that you showed earlier. >> thank you. my time is up. >> because we are having technical difficulties with the technology, for the record, when it comes to the rate of annual pay increases the wage growth grew. >> it was the 2nd slide that we showed. thank you. >> mr. johnson. >> congratulations on being the knew chairman, and i thank thank you for this hearing is well. i want to begin by asking you some questions regarding the social security disability. as you may no the program is projected to become insolvent in 2016 and the
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last thing that should happen is congress raising the retirement program to bail out the disability program. this is worse than kicking the can down the road and makes the social security retirement program works without doing anything to fix it. do you believe that reforming disability insurance would improve economic growth at all? >> yes and a couple of ways. on the merits the merits of the program itself we have a clear issue with people going on. on. it is useful to review the definition of disability. we now basically divide people into concrete groups work disabled and a much more fluid reality about people with physical and mental disabilities being able to continue to work. there is a lot of entry process. the 2nd thing is di is a black hole.
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and i think the community ought to think hard about especially young people who if they got continuous monitoring would find ways to exit and move into the labor force. we would benefit from that. it deserves serious attention. instead of just stealing money from another part and financing it or just cutting it reforming it so that it meets its social safety net advantages can cost less. ..
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to have a policy induce people to undertake such a spell is a bad incentive. >> you know sometimes people take social security before they stop working. in other cases they need to keep working to supplement their entire income. however, if they claim benefits before their full retirement age benefits are reduced based on how much they earn due to the retirement earnings test. how can we better encourage work especially later any workers career. >> there are a long list of things one can do. dr. feldstein mentioned looking at the normal retirement age and
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moving it to match the current life expectancies. the taxation of social security earnings is something that is worth looking. the program itself needs to be reformed. again, as everybody knows, this is a pension program that is kept actually on the books by the promise to cut benefits only 5% across the board. not a very good way to run a pension program. it ought to be reformed so will be sustainable for the future. people know what the deal will be. they will make the labor force sonoma how much they have to earn and all that will be beneficial. >> okay tell me why you think we have to tax those earnings because they party been taxed once. >> i didn't say it wanted to. i said we have to re-examine not. >> thank you, mr. chairman deerfield that. >> mr. lewis. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to take an opportunity to congratulate you on becoming
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chairman of this committee. like mr. levin, i look forward to working with you. thank you. welcome, members of the panel. dr. john said, would you like to comment on the question raised by mr. johnson? >> yes mr. lewis. this is an issue, a problem we encounter in many severe crises. this is why preventing severe financial crises because when so many people are dumped into the labor market, when so many people are dumped out of the labor market you overwhelm everybody's capacity to cope in more people do end up on disability. a lot of them end up with stress on disability because of what is happening. i is why the dog freight reforms are so. i urge you not to lose track of the big picture. this is why the fiscal stimulus was so important also.
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getting people back to work him to work, making sure they stayed great with the labor force. it is about long-term been thrown out of work and then people couldn't find a job mr. johnson. those are the visit which we found ourselves at the end of 2008 in 2009. >> thank you very much john said. the budget passed by the house republicans last year would have unfairly targeted lowood moderate income americans with significant cuts in the system, with at least 69% of its nondefense cut coming from programs and people with limited means. i want you to tell us do you worry that cutting medical, food and education assistance to struggling americans might be his two long-term economic
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growth? >> yes, mr. lewis. i think the human capital children's ability to go to school and to concentrate is absolutely a fact that by the access to nutrition, by their access to health care. medicaid for children is a very sensible investment in the long-term future growth of the country and its fiscal sustainability. those are the people who pay taxes when they are grown up. if they can't concentrate, if they are sick, if they are absent from school or if their family has medical emergencies they can't keep the children in school, all of this impacts negatively on the individuals and family and the rest of us in the society as people responsible for the fiscal accounts. >> huge cuts for low income americans might in greece any policy that is already a growing concern all across the country?
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>> yes congressman. inequality is an important issue. what i would stress not just about inequality and redistribution at this point in our history it's about growth. it's about human capital. it's about people. it is about who are you helping when they are young and therefore the families can help them. but kind of opportunities are they providing? it is also about immigration reform. we should be encouraging more people to enter the country legally and touring the labor force especially families with young children. that is a huge advantage we have relative to other industrial countries. in growth in our label force for legal immigration. no other developed country has an opportunity that can forward. >> thank you mr. johnson. >> mr. nunes is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. dr. holtz-eakin i've been
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working for several years on a proposal to get us out of the sand rocks we have been in for the last 100 years of the barak said tax code and a system that allows us to really let investment flow where it needs to flow in the capital come off the sidelines, not only in banks in the united states, but also offshore and let that money go to where it is best used in the economy, where entrepreneurs and investors want to invest. you are familiar it is based at the bradford x tax what i did is converted into taking not tax and looking at it on all business activity and create a cash flow tax working under chairman camp and now chairman ryan with joint tax to try to get this to a revenue neutral score because it is a theory now, but i am trying to bat it and get it out there in the public so that all republicans
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democrats, american people had a chance to look at what it would look like under a completely different tax structure. i know you are familiar with it. would like you if you could on the record talk about the positives and negatives with transitioning to a tax like this. >> as you know, i am a student of one of the greatest tax policy monitors this country has ever seen and i'm a big fan of your tax system as a result. i think it has a lot of virtues from the point of view of equalizing the effective tax rates on investments across sectors of the economy. something that's an important consideration here and it can be paired with the kind of territorial system that would allow us to stop the practice of walking off shore the overseas earnings of our most successful global companies in the united states. again, having investment flow to its highest rate of return. effectively taxes people on what
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they take out of the economy what the consumer as opposed to what they contribute to the economy. at first, skills, savings in the capital pool. as a basis for taxation, that's a fair principle and it distinguishes as a result between a high income individual who lives a lavish lifestyle and an individual who posit back into the economy and helps the nation as a whole. that is some way to think about when we think about erinys. now high in the people are treated equal. the downside in many peoples eyes is the inability to sort of have high effective tax rate on the affluent. i think i can be addressed in how you treat the return to capital for people who are extremely successful. this system is especially desirable because it basically turns the world into a big traditional ira. it doesn't did that any savings the best and what do you make it any tax out.
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the general earnings would realize. you get a windfall. if you end up being microsoft or an enormously successful startup, all of that success is tax. in others than systems they get investment systems they look like roth where you pay the tax that allows us when you get picked at this point in time about a program policy that has better fairness consideration. it is really a very good candidate. >> well, it is fair to the arch for newer because now we have entrepreneurs make their started decision based of a tax code which is exactly what we don't want them to do. >> yes. >> we only have a minute left. i would like to get your thoughts a few could. >> i am also a fan of the acts
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tax. i think as mr. holtz-eakin described it as kind of a generalized ira, which individuals can save and pay tax only when they take it out is a way of improving the fairness and also contributing to savings incentives and growth. >> i look forward to sharing the proposal with you. it is just a draft for now but i'd like to get your comments when you can add also like you to get your comments mr. johnson, at a later date. thank you, mr. chairman. i yield back. >> mr. nihilist recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. the panelists we have all well regarded. i want to talk about dynamic scoring. mr. larson and myself have a chance have been almost completing project along the rail lines from new haven to hartfield in springfield and
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eventually saint albans vermont. it will mean 12 to 16 more trains a day by new haven and springfield. there is to stations under reconstruction and $82 million. i supported stimulus, got up on the floor and spoke in support and i believe dr. feldstein supported stimulus package. you have more to reject that. how according to mr. o'brien's dynamic scoring undertaking which you measure the effect that stimulus in terms of investment which i happen to believe is a progrowth economic undertaking. i am comfortable enough asking all three panelists to tell me what you think of it.
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>> let me go back to the stimulus bill in 2009. at that time interest rates were down at about zero and i thought we did need a fiscal stimulus. i thought the design of that particular bill was not good. i thought in the end they provided some stimulus in the national debt than it did to gdp. i think in the end we have had a very significant recovery because the federal reserve took over introduced so-called quantitative easing, drove down long-term interest rates. that ultimately led to come as ben bernanke predicted it would, by two big increases in both home values and the stock market
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equity value, so household net worth rose $10 trillion in 2013 and that led to increased consumer spending and that in turn led to more hiring by firms more inventory accumulation and that gave us the recovery that darted in the second half, the series recovery that started in the second half of 2013. so, i think is a more general proposition when you do tax changes or reduce spending it is worth trying to calculate what that is going to do to gdp. historically, on the tax side that has not been done. so congress gets an incorrect view of what the costs are tax reductions than what the benefits are of tax increases. >> thank you. can we hear from the other too
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quickly. we've only got about two minutes. >> this is a big issue. i would point out a couple obvious things. first, very few bills are substantial enough in the bills, which expands the boundaries to get larger or smaller. so a couple bills will probably merit the consideration. i don't think it will change most of the work at all. this is not a new stain or a particularly exotic name. every president budget is dynamically scored. so we've been doing it. it is no more uncertain for no more difficult than conventional scoring. the financial consequence of an unknown weapon is hired.
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there are going to be judgments and difficulties than conventional and dynamic scoring. i don't think that should stop the members are knowing what is better growth as opposed to those who are not. >> mr. neil, i agree we should consider the full growth implications. some of these models in the dynamic scoring has some strange features including unemployment, for example. it is a little good of a stretch for example. it needs to be used extremely carefully and i worry it can even sometimes is used to justify whatever outcome. >> mr. chairman i hope you examine at the time the opportunity for dynamic scoring in the rules package passed by the house you'll consider the idea of spending. >> it is in the house rules. i think a gentleman should review. >> you the data mr. chairman.
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>> cbo enjoyed tax cuts and spending as well. >> the gentleman concerns have been addressed. >> the language is different. spending us to revenue. an article in "the new york times," medicated children -- >> gentleman has expired. mr. t. berry is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. dr. holtz-eakin come you meant sending your testimony that trade creates jobs here and in fact supports nearly 11 million jobs in the united states. in my home state of ohio, home of the national champ in buckeyes, by the way -- >> no beard sir. >> well, nevermind. >> champion of what? >> a lot of misconceptions. a lot of rhetoric thrown around particularly during presidential campaigns. we have had candidates talk about trade eating bad but
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export been good here to be betrayed without export for experts about trade? >> no. >> okay. it has been pretty surreal to watch. in ohio international trade supports 1.4 million jobs. we, in ohio since 2002 goods exported to trading partners, account for about a 48% increase over the last 12 years to our trading partners. our trading partners purchased 19 times more goods per capita from ohio than non-trading countries in 2012. canada is our biggest exporter that nafta is that in many people in ohio with campaign rhetoric. so my dad was a steel worker and like many jobs that people in that industry has had those jobs didn't go overseas.
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technology changed those jobs. often times dr. holtz-eakin, we never hear about the advancement of technology and what that has done to our economy. the escape code tends to always be these jobs went elsewhere. i have toured manufacturing plants where there used to be 20 people in an assembly line and now there is one. night teen jobs gone because of technology. there's a lot of efficiencies by the way. at those costs jobs. so as we move forward with respect to your testimony i think there's a huge opportunity for america. whether you look at trade, exporting the tax code we in the united states are doing well this type fact that we have one armed type kind are back.
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whether it's the high corporate tax rate we've talked about. whether it is the fact that we have fewer trading partners than many of our allies do around the world. can you tell us why particularly on trade opening up additional market and giving the president t-pa is important sooner rather than later, why that is important to our economy and jobs in ohio and other states quite >> so, it is important now because we are not only employed. we don't have everybody who wants to work an additional opportunities to access markets and sell products are especially important right now and is beneficial. the second vegas we will begin at the ground floor as setting rules for trade arrangement that if you're on the sidelines
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waiting is not a good idea. the third thing that's important is ultimately we would expect us to get back to full employment. this is an opportunity to sell to the parts of the world where we'll see the greatest growth of income and that is better jobs. not just more but peoples jobs will will be better as a result. the third is an opportunity to take advantage of technologies as he said. if you have the ability to something better come you can take advantage of that through trade. the biggest example has been driven by a dance of the natural gas and oil exploration. it has changed the global lay of the land to the united states permanently. you could not imagine the level of geopolitical risk in the middle east right now and oil prices at $50 a barrel. it just wouldn't happen. it is also changed import of those products and none has been a big change in trade. it is hard when people get displaced by trade.
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it happens. it is not all exports. there are imports. but it's an opportunity. if we take advantage, with more people working on making more money. >> at the displacement is not technology. technology enters us well. >> it is not international trade. it's interregional trade. this is part of an economy unique to trade. >> thank you. mr. doggett is ready. >> thank you mr. chairman. i suppose in a hearing on this topic this importance, that it is merely an oversight that i guess the leader of republican yankee on this in the senate at least, senator mcconnell began the session by noting that what he called the uptick in our economy resulted from the mir expert tatian of a republican congress. and it's good to know that after so many predictions about the
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economic recovery act the affordable care act them almost everything else, that over the last six or seven years, the administration either has done or has not done that we have enough progress that some republican leadership is claiming credit for all of the things they said would hurt or hinder the economy that have been sacked in most us helped it significantly. i guess that it does give new meaning to the old reference to the memory of an elephant. one of the areas that of course we have not seen the progress that mr. johnson has referred to is the fact that not all the american have shared in this is not by accident. but the data is rather remarkable that according to the pew research center we have the widest webcast and three decades
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that the compensation for the chief executive officers at american corporations was about 20 times that of the typical worker back in the 60s, but in more recent years it has become about rehab or times a typical worker's pay. since 1979 worker productivity increased by about 65%, but worker wages remain essentially flat. the ceo pay grew by almost one as an%. i think that this income inequality have some of the same pernicious effects on economic road in our country as just discrimination against various groups. gender discrimination, for example, claiming that we are not going to commit some societies continue to do to participate fully in our economy, while in this case we have treated one group of
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americans as really not having the potential to achieve -- not being able to fully achieve their god-given potential. mr. john said i wanted to ask you about that further, what the impact is that the decisions here in congress either through action or inaction to not have all of americans participate in this and adopt policies like the american opportunity tax credit and increases in pell grants to ensure that more americans can share and contribute to the economy, does that have the direct impact on our future economic productivity and growth of the country? >> it has a huge impact. the technology and globalization we've been discussing, no one is asking you to turn back the tide. you can't do that. they're in any sensible policies under the jurisdiction of this committee, it would in the pell
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grant in other ways that would give them an incentive cover resources to become educated. we know what kind of skills you need in order to be productive in for a country to compete globally. we know you need to have quantitative skills. we also know it's very hard for people to get those skills. it is very hard for them to get the post high school education. we should shift away from talking about k-12 is their expectation to k. through 14 because you need those two years post-high school to have any chance of decent high lifetime earnings have been able to pay taxes. >> as far as corporate taxes are concerned, it is difficult to see how you can lower the rate much more for a company like general electric unless you pay them for operating, which we in fact have done in seven years for corporation after corporation pays its lobbyists more than it pays the federal
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treasury. as you look at corporate tax reform, is it important to close loopholes that the same time would make any changes to the statutory rate? >> if you consider just corporate taxes, you should consider revenue neutral approach. quite a few of the proposals we here would go away with sound decelerated appreciation. i'm not sure that will help in terms of capital formation. compare around the world with other countries. the world and does their spirit asks entrepreneurs how to be a status. we are number seven in the world in very close to five other countries in those rankings. >> thank you. mr. reichert. >> thank you, mr. chairman. congratulations again. like my colleagues, i support a robust trade. i come from washington state and i think most everyone knows watching and state is going to microsoft and other large corporations, 40% of the jobs created in washington are a
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direct result of our strong trade. not only most of the colleagues on this panel agree with the strong trade agenda, but in fact the president of the united states and our ambassador mr. froman both agree it is critical to doubling our export and creating jobs in america. i have been to be a member of the president's export council and have been for the past six years and have been in almost every one of those meetings that the president's wish in the ambassador's wish will recognize the importance as much as the ambassador and helped him get to tpp and tpa past through this congress. 40% of the jobs in washington state. mr. tiberi talked a little bit about technology. my focuses more on small business and how technology has helped small biz this is.
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we all think of export some larger corporation across the country exporting their goods like airplanes, et cetera. the small software producer and i have a son who has 10 or 12 products all over the world. how important is trade mr. holtz-eakin and the expansion of their businesses. how important is trade to creating jobs and the small business opportunities for people who migrate for their employment. >> a ballpark number, 70% of exporters would be caught by small businesses because they are small and the export isn't that large. but in terms of being engaged in
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international commerce, small business to an part of their customer markets to be able to get to other countries. we also know that it is as small and growing businesses that create the majority of jobs in the united states. so their access to those markets and ability to trade is intimately linked to the success in creating jobs that higher paid and getting rid of the high-paying jobs as a part of the national economic growth. i think it is important to keep that i am good ability to trade -- the trade agreements that level the playing field and allow us access to other markets. >> we talk about 80% or more of the jobs created across this country are really created by small businesses correct rights >> the small growing business where you see the majority of jobs tiered >> that really creates an opportunity to sell the products not only here in the united
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states but what everybody has described on this and all 95% of our market is outside of the country. >> has the advantages come in and subtle ways that are hard to document, but you see the kind of competitive pressures to face, the kind that take ologies competitors are using about marketing business models they use and those things get acquired into american terms. whether it's physical technologies are the way they run their business here and there's a lot of advantage to get engaged in these instances. >> mr. feldstein, i would like to address my question to you. in an area where we have the ability to boost our economy and tax reform is mentioned many times, businesses large and follow-up benefits around finally since 1986 looking at our tax code and creating certainty and stability in our tax code and the opportunity to grow and invest. of course then creating jobs.
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what about pastor businesses sole proprietorships partnerships, s. corporations, as they face a high marginal tax rate and high compliance costs, how do you see the change in the tax code specific -- specifically helping those small pass-through business is quite >> i think that is a major challenge that you face as a committee in congress in dealing with tax reform, that lowering the corporate tax rate were both the president and the republicans have said we've got to get down into the use will still leave pass-through business is through their personal tax return facing much higher tax rates. so somehow, that has to be dealt with and by treating the business income of pass-through individuals differently from other things that so in effect
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they get the advantages of the lower tax rates that come in corporate tax reform. >> i yield back. >> thank you. mr. larson. >> thank you, mr. chairman. echoing the sentiments of the committee, congratulations on two becoming chairman and you and mr. kinds great success with the green bay packers. this too can be, kevin and sam. you guys was robbed. it was a catch but i don't create further controversy. >> how about the detroit lions? >> dynamic scoring mr. chairman. >> that is really dynamic scoring. >> it to get to the point that i want to acknowledge that baghdad today is announcing my district is announcing for $16 per hour for it employees and large parts
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of coordinated care and all the innovation technology and coming to merging together of a pro-growth industry. i wanted to acknowledge that a return to the point of dynamic scoring. as it relates to the rules that are before us. with respect to infrastructure and general, something that this committee desperately needs to address in terms of our highway infrastructure roads bridges, sewage systems, broadband for schools. quick answer from the members coming after no, should dynamic scoring be an clue did a major infrastructure programs? we will start from left to right with mr. feldstein. yes or no. >> if it is really major i can see the case for it. >> was 70% of the roads and
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bridges and deterioration and is logged and neglect by the congress, it seems like this is a pent-up need that certainly would require it. >> it would be good to know what impact on gdp that kind of infrastructure program would have. >> of its large-scale comfortable undergoes a house rule it in will be scored. that is the rule. if it is extremely large-scale possibly going to have macro in packs the committee chairs can designate the legislation. there is nothing about these rules that tells the field in one direction or the other. >> yes, congress did but can we also include netiquette for children, affordable care act and the dodd-frank financial reforms that are scored outwards according to the cbo. if you repeal dodd-frank, it will apparently save the budget. you will save anything. another deck or faster be like the one we just had.
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if you start scoring these dimensions please do a comprehensively. >> a meal to my colleague from massachusetts who is make it a point of differentiating those rules as they are. if i can yield to mr. neel. >> i think what we're trying to get your is the idea if there are economic outcomes that comes from significant infrastructure investments that are not only long-overdue but have been resisted by the majority in the house. the path forward seems to me to be one that would include, for example, an investment to huge union stations, putting a lot of construction workers on the job. the rail been improved, bribe and haven't been extended to the hill towns of western massachusetts so children who by the way lipid communities are first-class colleges have to go
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to the park in mind at the local library during the evening hours to connect to the internet. i think that those are the sorts of measurements that we want to be assured of as we go forward if we are only going to apply this to tack cuts. seems to me as though it still can be great if we decide we are going to talk about long-term investment, just for our colleagues here that are dubious about high-speed rail when we got to western massachusetts on the way to vermont and a couple small towns, that train got to 79 miles per hour. how do we measure that accurately consistent with the point mr. larson has made if we resist the idea that is going to account in terms of a long-term forecast economic. >> i think we should begin. rotter economic and tax
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mr. neal. i worry about the uncertain to get the tax proposals and not lose very large. that is why you have to be careful with exactly the details of the models being used and the implications. you are right, there are growth implications for renewing and expanding the infrastructure of the country. >> the time for the gentleman has expired. mr. boustany is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. here we are in year six of the recovery. mr. holtz-eakin w. really laid out the task of this committee very very clearly and our task is to accelerate long-term roads beyond the 2.3% we are see. as i have looked and read many many things during the course of the past few years trade and energy have been the chew accelerant that it worked again the drive we have seen in this economy as we have tried to climb out of the recession.
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i want to point out in my state of wheezy of that, we now see $86 billion of new investment in my district alone related to trade and energy. exports now account for 25% of the state's gdp. we doubled exports of four years, all within the lng export chemical -- chemical exports. we see the resurgence of manufacturing as a result. these are bright spots. what really worries me in all of this for the macro economic threat to this we haven't talked about this today, further slowing in asia clearly the problems in europe where they can get policy great and we save many countries in the recession. of of course and security in the middle east and elsewhere. what do we do about the stakes? many things we do here that we
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can do with regard to domestic policy tax reform education and so forth but what can the united states do to mitigate these threats because without u.s. leadership we will not see this type of growth needed in this country, nor globally. i believe that america's opportunity to lead the catalyst for leadership is straight promotion authority, which sends open the door and gives negotiators to best leverage to move forward tpp all of these trade agreements. this is the opportunity and our opportunity for growth. we have to focus on the global economy. with energy and trade and a success story we see in louisiana and i'm afraid a lot of that is threat in. two things i want to point out. one, it is my sad is it that these jobs related to exports and manufacturing export as well as energy jobs to sit gently
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better than jobs unrelated to that. many, many folks back home with a high school education, not even an extra two years, are making pretty good money, significantly better than jobs unrelated to energy. we know us that that deal with export related jobs in figures roughly about 18% higher than non-export related jobs. would you i'll agree these types of jobs pay better? on average? >> i think that is a fact. >> as we deal with income inequality, this is also one of the potential solution by embracing trade policy will market and embracing the remarkable energy revolution we see today. not analyzing it with taxes or other dates, but embrace it as a truly revolutionary development that puts the united states in a leadership role.
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>> mr. boustany, i agree to completely on that role. the question for this committee is to you dtk at the tpa so-called fast-track as the administration as you know her quite well along and you could focus your attention -- >> negotiators need to maximize lovers of these negotiations. i've had contracts with japanese invaded that they will put their best deal on the table. i want to raise another issue. one of the biggest issues we are going to a civil louisiana is the lack of workforce to handle all these jobs of the best new trade and energy. i'm very concerned about the rigidity and the labor market that we have in the united states. we are going to be robby teeter to pay paul along the immediate
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gold coast. we have high unemployment in other areas. what can we do? what can this committee do to deal with this rigidity and the labor market? >> i think you really have a limited number tools in terms of geographic mobility, something which has to minister the united states. there are certainly a lot of state policy is that i would the state level to look at. a lot of licensing on the certification that interferes with flavor marketability. they use god as a big. people tie out of the labor force. everything work-related in that regard. >> thank you. time has expired. mr. blumenauer is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman.
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i recognize your words in which they were offered. this is a this is an interesting and thought-provoking panel to get soa. the issues we've reference to terms of tax trade and health care are somewhat complex and controversial. pity they absolutely need to be on the agenda. i would argue that there may be something that the panel did not address that is tied to this that actually can have an opportunity to bring people together. i am seeking the next hearing right well how president of the afl-cio, the president of the u.s. chamber commerce, president of the american trucking association president of civil engineers, environmentalists, truckers who will unite and say after 22 years it might be time arise due raise the gas tax and fund our infrastructure. president ronald reagan 22 years
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ago -- 23 years ago in his address for thanksgiving made an appeal that when congress came back, he wanted them to more than double the gas tax because rows were falling apart because there were hundreds of thousands of people who could be put to work because it was a user fee that conferred benefit on people who paid it and in fact there were costs being incurred at that time because of deteriorating rose. he said it would probably cost the average order is less than the pair of shock absorbers. well, today we are in a situation where we talk about product dignity. 42% of our major urban highways are can just sit in the estimated are not controversial
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on across the political spectrum. it costs about $100 billion a year, that a third of our roads are import or mediocre condition and it's costing the average motorist over $300 a year in damage to their vehicles. the s&p economic report, we talk about identix glory. i think regardless of how you are going to use dynamic scoring or not, the evidence is strong that a $1.2 billion investment in infrastructure is going to put close to 30000 people to work. my friend, mr. boustany, we have to worry whether his region of high unemployment or not. these are jobs that would be available, family wage jobs for people across the country across the country.
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now, i respectfully request that our committee has a unique responsibility. this title for transportation is wasted means. it is not the cmi committee. this is our jurisdiction. we have not yet had a hearing on s. in over two congresses. we are going to have one. the chairman offered it on the floor, you remember. the circumstances did permit. i respectfully suggest that this is an area that there is broad consensus where we can get local government state government the church, the professions, environmentalists and as they say truckers interpolate to come together and say congress, get off the dime. when i came to the airport
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yesterday, the corner gas station was selling gasoline $1.60 a gallon less than what it keeps is free. the average motorist would pay, if we raise the gas tax 15 cents over three years, would be paid less than a 10th of what they are already benefiting it in terms of reduced gasoline prices. remember, they are paid over $300 a year damage to their cars. i would think we could have a very healthy discussion with experts across the political spectrum on what we could do if somebody's got a better approach than raising the gas tax supported by two commissions for the bush administration. >> unfortunately, the time for the gentleman has expired to ask
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his question. >> okay, what do you think. [laughter] thank you for your courtesy. >> all right, all right. dr. price is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to join my colleagues would've congratulated you. i look forward to working with you on assisting their efforts. i want to first talk a little bit about macroeconomic analysis of what my friends called dynamic scoring, which i call realistic and accurate scoring and i would note that some amusement, that i'll come except for mr. blumenauer who used his entire time, that act questions of the panelists mr. johnson and others come up all the questions they asked were an effort to get an assessment of what a policy change would have on the economy. that is called macro economic analysis. it is what economists do every
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single day. they provide an assessment of consequence is that the policy decision. i want to welcome my colleagues to embracing the import tag of macro economic analysis. i want to say for the record that we are please the economy has become a little more robust. it's also important to remember that this is the slowest recovery of economics -- and economic downturn in this country out for however. there is a reason for that and with policymakers ought to be asking the question why is that. i want to ask dr. holtz-eakin and highlight your quote. it is important with policymakers asked the question. what are the work incentives. we last week learned that the december jobs donors resulted in
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a decrease to 5.6%. that's a good day but it doesn't tell the whole story. the more troubling number was the labor participation rate. at 62.7%, the lowest it's been a 37 years. go back to the carter administration geek every is slow. we also discovered in those job numbers that only 56.6% of women are participating in the job market. that's the lowest it's been in 26 years. dr. holtz-eakin, i wonder if you would mind a piety to why the labor force weeds are so slow to provide us with two or three items that he would increase participation labor market. >> so if you look at the decline some of it is just demographics. we know there's e.g. retirement possibilities and some of the
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compensation comes for that. >> how much of that account for quick >> half of the decline. of the remainder there is ballpark about half of a percentage point appears to have and a traditional repeat the left to labor force and may return. there is a phenomenon that is so big to dispute. will they come back is an important question for monetary policy and one will wage inflation starts to push? it's also for the point of view of product committee ended the way way of worker ability going forward. i tend to be in the camp is that they are not coming back. it's only in the latter half of 2014 that if you look at an unemployed person that the probability they would get a job exceed the probability they would leave the labor force. it is just nearly winning the
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race to get it back to job. they are just not coming back. over 90% of people stay out. we have discouraged a chunk of workers in a big and substantial way and we ought to re-examine from start to finish the kind of anti-work incentives that are in all of our programs because they have to realize social statement to some extent. >> t. want to highlight two or three of those quiets >> we know a big chunk of this will come from single man whose labor force administration has gone down a lot. the ait fee is not of that. one reason i am deeply stepped up all of the virtues of minimum wage increases we're raising it through the great recession for previous legislation and the
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labor force has been the warmest. that is starting out jobs people rely on to get into the career ladder. we have to look at what is going on with the teams, the single man and the workers with god, don't let them leave. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. condit is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i too want to congratulate my friend and i look forward to working with you to find some common ground on crucial issues facing our nation. mr. johnson, you can comment on the preference i will give to you or not. we are happy to hear it now where we need to go as a nation type policy if that makes sense. it is difficult with the current environment it seems as if the parties are in two different planets. we keep talking past each other. one of the concerns i have on the other side of most economists have come before us in the testimony or hearing or
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suggested seem to be a song they love to repeat over again regardless of economic conditions. it's always about tax cuts for the most well-off. it's always about the lessons we should make in the human capital of our nation. it's always about regulation, including deregulating wall street banks under dodd-frank right now. it doesn't matter what the economic circumstances are. it's the same three notes over and over and over again. i am a former quarterback. i had a chance to play at harvard for a few years, but i know if the play is a working you've got to change it and call in on a bull. it's the ability that we face that leads to the gridlock and that seems to be it is less data in factory with the more ideologically though sophocles driven here that's where there's
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a problem. there's an appropriate time to cut taxes to the greasepaint deed or to raise taxes and reduce the need or deregulate or call for more regulation. the ability to distinguish between the two would turn us into a real partner with the private sector when it comes to economic growth and job creation. it's the inability that has us tied up in knots. you can comment on mac but what i want to ask you about having had a chance to read your testimony here. page two item nine to the original pointed your statement, you set our economic recovery with me were difficult by the policies and budget issues occluding the lack of consensus of the need to support the economy actual or near government shutdowns and repeated confrontations of the debt ceiling, threatening to fall to the countries that creates a great job insurgency in the country. such uncertainty discourages investment and consumption. the debt ceiling standoff, fiscal cliff standoff, insert t.
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that it created. would you care to expand on that was the recommendation of how we can overcome that in the future they really be a partner with the growth we need right now? been a congressman my recommendations don't do it. i testify to this committee two years ago exactly about these points. i besieged all the members not to engage in this kind of destabilizing competition politics were you threatened to default is crazy. to threaten government shutdown in the uncertainty in and around the government contracts including the workers, that is not helpful. this is in my previous testimony the ways of an certainty spikes for everyone. we know that kind of uncertainty discourages investment and consumption in discourages tirade on all three parts of the recovery. that is what we should
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absolutely, all americans must want everyone to get back to work and then we can support growth. if you generate that uncertainty economy will slow down the economy for sure. >> there's been a lot of focus on tax reform and the impact it's going to have. again, look at the pass data and facts and business owners themselves, the impact of tax policy is way overstated because of the multiple factors and businesses to make everyday in regards to hiring decisions sales, you name it. just maybe what's both factors. can you speak upon that in regards to the old dynamic scoring issue we are talking about and how hard it really is to predict the macro economic tax of any of the policies we have coming out of this place. >> first of all congressman, you're absolutely right. the environment for business and you should look at the available measures as doing business indicators. we are number seven, but they
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look at new york and l.a. and the problems they identify are about local regulators, not the federal bull government. what is this actually means actually makes. you will see a range of dave's occluding the availability of skilled labor. >> the last major tax reform and 86 as one of the largest corporate tax increase in at the time. >> thank you at the time of the gentleman has expired. mr. buchanan's record is. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i agree this committee has a real opportunity to work together and get the things done right now. i want to touch quickly on the discussion earlier one of my colleagues brought up about corporate rates, highest in the world. i have to do have the opportunity to late 80s to be in the home called flat rate deductions are minimal deductions was 20% back there a couple three years ago lowered to 16. i asked them why. 20 is more than fair it seems to
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me. he said we need to be competitive in the world. .. many of these startups. so i guess and i would also say

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